High damage how is this possible?

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  1. john1406

    john1406 Someday Author

    Hi all,
    Can someone explain to me how it is possible that some players can shoot and sink me in 4 or 5 shots. I have over 1 million points on my ship (incl voodoopoints). When i am in full war mode I even loose from players who are just sunk and come back to repair. Even then I sometimes loose the battle. I play level 43 use everything in my power to be strong. Personally I think these players use something that is not allowed in the game. If I am wrong please provide me with the information to beat these players. Do they use some items in the game that I don't know of?What can I do to win these battles? Thnx
     
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  2. TEX~BULL

    TEX~BULL Board Administrator Team Seafight

    Doing just quick calculation even with out all the newest buff and gems a player can easily hit for 190,000 + so yes it is possible.

    Tex
     
  3. john1406

    john1406 Someday Author

    So even if a player is being sunk..comes back on the map to repair...I am full points//I am still loosing...how is that possible?...They shoot me 2 or 3 times and I am sunk.....really ..you are sure?
     
  4. MissSpeedymus

    MissSpeedymus Forum Apprentice

    If u have full pain lvl 5 and 6 and a high hitchance, u can shot 200k without any buffs (lamp and hg), to players with low dodge
    And if u use lanters u can easy hit 300k in a crit.

    So if u dont wonna die so fast, u need alot of dodge on ship and pet.
     
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  6. john1406

    john1406 Someday Author

    What do you mean...I very raredom need help from forum..you said you warned me before.. I am very sorry I made a mistake but you don't have to insult and threaten me. Last ime iI posted a question is months ago...
     
  7. tigermoth1037

    tigermoth1037 Someday Author

    The mod has edited 'evilways' comment and the red writing you see is the comment made to evil ways from the moderator. It is not aimed at you.
     
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  8. john1406

    john1406 Someday Author

    ohhh good..thank you for explaining....I apologize..sorry
     
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  10. TEX~BULL

    TEX~BULL Board Administrator Team Seafight

    This was directed at the player that wrote that post. Your post is fine mate.

    Tex
     
  11. Rabbid

    Rabbid Padavan

    Quite easily 1 pain bringer level 5 with dragon powder = 365 damage x 586 cannons = 213.890 damage with flares.

    I'm only 80% painbringer/worldbreaker and I easily hit 155k with flares and 458 slots, so top boats with lamp buff and 500+ level 5 pains will easily damage you for 200k+ with special ammo.
     
  12. The*Defiant

    The*Defiant Forum Veteran

    Rabbid: Two questions for you mate: (1) how did you arrive at 365 damage? and (2) in your example, why did you choose Painbringer 5 over Doomhammer 6, since the Doom 6s have a much larger elite ammo bonus? (I am trying to learn something here). Thanks mate!
     
  13. Rabbid

    Rabbid Padavan

    I chose painbringer level 5 because atm they are the highest level cannons I have. Also they are the hardest hitting cannons as well, besides level 6 painbringer.

    I ran max damage with powder and 23% level cannon damage gem.

    This got my painbringers to 370 damage per cannon with flares, doomhammers level 6 capped out at 338. That gives the painbringer a difference of 32 damage per cannon.

    So I believe this is Level 8 Gunpowder, Level 8 Ferocious Bookkeeper, Powder Punch 50/50, 7% Colossal Cannon Boost, 5% Cunning Cannon Boost, Manta League 4%. (No pet gem or lanterns for damage)

    586 Level 5 Pains @ 370 per cannon = 216,820
    586 Dooms Level 6 @ 338 per cannon = 198,068

    Also pains fast reload and have 100% elite ammo damage bonus. They are the far superior cannon to doomhammer level 6.

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    Last edited: Jan 6, 2020
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  14. The*Defiant

    The*Defiant Forum Veteran

    I appreciate this very much. But I have a huge gap in my calculations. Here is what I get:

    Flare ammo hits 75 damage +100 more from Painbringer bonus+ 25.2% Powder Punch skill x 75 flare damage = 18.9 + 23% damage gem times 75 = 17.25 + 32 (8% Gunpowder castle + 8% Bookkeeper Castle +7% Cannon Boost + 5% cannon Boost + 4% Manta League) = a total of 243.15 (and this is without taking into account you only have a 75% chance of a hit per cannon. Now I haven't included Dragon Powders, which states: Dragon powder

    Give your cannons more power with powder

    Overview:
    15% Hit probability
    15% Critical damage

    So apparently I am way off on my calculations. Would you share your Painbringer and Doomhammer calculations with me (or at least the Painbringer one)? I appreciate your time and help mate!:)
     
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  15. TEX~BULL

    TEX~BULL Board Administrator Team Seafight

    We are going to move this to the new pirate tutorial section so that we may leave it open for a while.

    Tex
     
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  16. The*Defiant

    The*Defiant Forum Veteran

    Rabbid: In my previous post, I mentioned I could not get close to your numbers. What am I calculating wrong? (I won't bother you again; I understand if you don't want to answer and it is no problem. You might be giving away secrets that could be used against you).
     
  17. Rabbid

    Rabbid Padavan

    I didn't calculate it, I simply took 1 of my cannons, tested damage, then 20 and 40. Numbers were consistent, for instance 20 pains level 5 = 7400 damage.

    So take whatever that is and multiply that by 602 cannons (now the max I've seen) and that's what you get. And I don't have max gems and believe me I still get smacked around by a lot of level 45s. I'm still level 37 working to 45 and am missing a ton of slots. I wish I had some secrets but the truth is I don't. haha ;p lmao

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    200k dmg is possible with 438 slots so imagine 600+
     
    Last edited: Jan 14, 2020 at 6:30 PM
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  18. The*Defiant

    The*Defiant Forum Veteran

    Got it! Makes sense to me. Thank you mate - I appreciate all of your contributions to our Forum as well!:)
     
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  19. TEX~BULL

    TEX~BULL Board Administrator Team Seafight

    The actual maximum cannons is 640. We recently updated the post to include the new levels and buffs:

    Maximum Weapon Slots

    Tex
     
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  20. The*Defiant

    The*Defiant Forum Veteran

    Good job! And you said you would do it and you did Tex! Thank you!:)
     
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