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  1. "assuming one has a conscience".......obviously, there are those among us humans who have a different definition of what 'conscience' means. :p
     
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  3. well M8...waves 25-30 have about 136 million hitpoints. Just looking at these waves, you would have to take 13.6 million hit points per minute. If your ship, in fact, has a reload time of 1.5 seconds...that is 350 k per hit which is possible. Full firestorms would, indeed, allow you to get a 1.5 seconds reload time. The first 10 waves have 29 npc...one shot each with any well equipped ship...45 seconds if you are perfect. Waves 11-25 have about 70 million hit points. 5 minutes assuming perfect 1.5 reload times at 350k hits. I know it is possible to hit harder than 350k....but I am really not sure about firestorms..I don't have enough level 6 to know. I do know with my cannons (a combination of newest, bastion 4 and 5 and world lvl 5 and 6)...I sometimes hit below 300k Crits can be between 450 and 500k. While I am very sure it is possible to post times better than I am getting without using any 'assists' it takes a stretch of the imagination to think that it is possible to get in the 10 minute range. I don't completely rule out the possibility, but find it doubtful. Watching videos on YouTube would not indicate if the player is using an assist or not. All you see is the ship....and what I have seen is not in real time (usually speeded up or parts skipped) and hits, sometimes, in the 700k range. I make mistakes, which is human, that slow me down. I seem to get trapped by the tormentor npc which costs at least 10 seconds. Sleeper npc get me as well which slows down my reload time. On a good round, I can get 20 minutes with 713 cannon. The package buffs, did, indeed, offer more cannon slots, but players were posting sub 10 minute times before this buff was available. I am not, necessarily saying that these fast times are impossible, I am only questioning how players are doing the map twice as fast as I can. I do the rift map a lot and have enough practice and a well equipped ship. My nature is to question why I am unable to preform as well as others not to accuse them of cheating. just saying.
     
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  4. 15% Genies Armory: maximum 98 extra cannon slots

    Total: 749 with 5% extra slots from sigma 786...where did you get 820?
     
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  5. BlackKnight83

    BlackKnight83 Forum Greenhorn

    Hmm dont really believe that but sure...
     
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  6. _-walker-_

    _-walker-_ Forum Apprentice

    cheaters do the best times there,and that is the true,sorry to say that
     
  7. -PUSAT-

    -PUSAT- Active Author

    i asked nobody to spoon feed me, i just asked a simple question about the rift....but whatever.....
     
  8. LoL M8....guess we hit a few nerves here. One thing that I failed to mention in all this is that the game is full of cheaters...just given that one simple fact, why should we not believe that they don't also cheat in the Rift. I mean...there are bots in the lion map, the chi chi map...sometimes I see more bots than I see 'live' players... There are farming bots, auto lock bots, super powers bots...why not rift bots?
     
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  9. -PUSAT-

    -PUSAT- Active Author

    Lol LoM...you are so right...I'm pretty sure their are rift bots as well..it's funny how some get all up in arms about it....
     
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  10. The*Defiant

    The*Defiant Forum Demigod

    Please list those packages for me that I could have bought and received 820 top-tier cannons and achieved a 1.5 reload time. (By the way, the repair cannons have the lowest possible reload time in this game at exactly 1.5 seconds). Unless one of you can show me those packages (and you can't), then you are just blowing smoke. Show them to me right now, and if what lostlove2 said is accurate, then I will quit this game and admit right here in this Forum I am a total idiot. How about that? Put up or shut up! P.S. Oh Yes - and THIS is NOT going to give me 820 cannons and a 1.5 reload time, mate:

    https://prnt.sc/sLVdLwKyRme4
     
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  11. The*Defiant

    The*Defiant Forum Demigod

    Apparently you haven't read this thread closely. Videos of the Rift Map on Youtube? Duh! Yes! We know this! But as I said before, they can be videos of their bot doing it. They do not prove it was done legitimately.
     
  12. The*Defiant

    The*Defiant Forum Demigod

    See above: Your quote: "....but if I have done 11.34sec...". So, in other words, you don't know if you have or haven't? I enjoy reading and exchanging opinions in this Forum. But lazy players who can't use proper grammar; shoot their mouths off with so-called facts (that cannot be substantiated); and talk about specific packages that Seafight had for sale that didn't exist shows their own ignorance.
     
  13. The*Defiant

    The*Defiant Forum Demigod

    Mates - Please forgive my anger at these noobs. But when players (living in dreamland) inaccurately say stupid things like (for example): "Oh yes, you could have spent $300 and gotten 820 Level-5 Bastions and 50 unobtanium chains of speed", I think "whatever they are smoking, I want some of it"! One quick bot comment: Have you noticed maps you enter and almost immediately, one or more boats come like a "bat out of Hell" speed-crystalling to your coordinates and blow you away? This indeed could be because you just got finished sinking their buddies and the word went through their TS and that's why. Or a possible alternate theory I have: the bot programs have a nice list of "enemy" ship IDs in them, and when you enter the map they are in, they auto-trigger and come for you. (I had one boat recently do this and I blew him to pieces; if he had such a program, he would only be showing he is a "team player" by attacking me). And in the last 5 minutes, one sank me, and characteristically, was hunting me for another sink and while I saw him go by me, he didn't turn and come at me. My theory: they have a limited "bot vision". One buddy of mine has played as long as I have. He used to rant to me non-stop about the "battle bots". I thought he was going way overboard and didn't believe him (and this was several years ago). But in fact, he was way ahead of me with his observations.
    Lastly, I have fought you LOM in PvP, and can state unequivocally that your boat is very damn strong (and my boat is no slouch in the Battle Point rankings at "Captain First Class"). Botters know: Anything built by a human can be defeated (eventually) by another human.
     
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  14. -PUSAT-

    -PUSAT- Active Author

    Amen Mr.D....spoken like true champ of the game, i asked about the rift cause i came back too Searight after many years, and when i left there was no rift map,and as for the battle bots, you are so right, i get my share of sinks and get sunk.....but i love the way you put things.....cheers mate
     
  15. The*Defiant

    The*Defiant Forum Demigod

    Thanks for your support mate. I don't like being uncivil in this Forum, but there is a huge difference in veteran players like Łé††éяš~öƒ~мåяqµé making statements (backed up with precise calculations) and other players popping off his/her mouths like they are experts (yet - I have not seen their names previously in Forum, nor do they provide facts to back up their claims). In fact, they do exactly the opposite and **avoid** answering questions and just make "fantastic" statements. ("fantastic" - Adjective - Definition: "conceived or appearing as if conceived by an unrestrained imagination).
     
  16. BilderrahmenOH

    BilderrahmenOH Forum Greenhorn

    No one will tell you how to exactly do every wave and even if they would show you recordings and what not you people still would discredit anything shown. And to the guy complain about poor grammar: Not everyone is fluent in english and that guy didnt mean to tell you that you would get full bastion cannone but rather have 820 cannonslots so if your ship would be strong already you get times as low as 10-11mins
     
  17. This thread is beginning to crack me up. My intention, from the beginning was to offer some support to PUSAT and, hopefully, I did. I think there are a lot of misconceptions regarding what is possible in the rift, but it isn't necessary to make unfounded and impossible suggestions like getting 820 cannons. With maximum slots and the genie buff AND the 7% extra slots from the purchases, you are still under 800. There was a buff offered at the beginning of the year (I think) that did allow you to have over 800 cannon.. I don't remember exactly what it was, but I think it was given to all players...maybe with a purchase. With that buff, I actually did a rift in 19 minutes. I am sure there are players who can do the rift faster than I can...maybe better computer...better reflexes (I am old)..better settings...I am just not convinced that times under 15 minutes are easily achievable (notice I did not say impossible).
    Now, about reload times. Full firestorms will give you a 1.5 reload time. I was told a long time ago that the best setup for the rift was with firestorms. Unfortunately, I don't have enough to load my ship and I am not buying any! If you have full firestorms AND the Sigma buff...you may have under 1.5 reload times. I can't say this for sure, since I don't have the buff (I did load what firestorms I have to check the reload time). There are a lot of frustrations in this game, that is certain. Players who 'claim' to be able to be able to do something or have something that are not borne out by the game parameters should either say specifically how they got them, or just not participate in the conversation. I don't see any reason to just say you can do something without evidence. What is the point.
    We all know the bots are getting more and more sophisticated and that this makes the game frustrating for those of us who don't use them. I have some other friends in the game who just broke down and paid for programs just to try to keep up. While this isn't my style, I don't really blame them either. If you want to spend the money, why not? (something to do with 'conscience' Defiant? LoL For me, the rift is simply a challenge. My competitive side wants to know how the heck these guys are getting times that simply smoke me...no matter what I try! My suspicious side suspects some 'assist' and I no one will convince that side of me that there isn't any cheating going on. I just wish those who 'offer opinions' would back it up with some sort of reality check. Please! To repeat, my intention was to help PUSAT, who, like me, quit the game for quite awhile and is trying to play catch-up.
    I have done a lot of complaining in the fourms...a lot! I have been banned many times by the mods due to my breaking the 'rules' and insulting the integreity of BP (and sometimes the mods themselves)...mostly due to people cheating. I know that nothing will ever be done about it...but it definately hits one of my nerves when I see players take all the rewards in any part of the game...events, season, league, and/or rift when they are, obviously, cheating.
    About language. I don't live in the USA and I teach English (well, I used to teach, now retired) and I am always impressed with anyone who has some fundamental abilities in more than one language....I have friends where I live who are fluent in many languages and I am jealous beyond belief! I wish I could buy a language implant bot.
    I hope Defiant or PUSAT can nail the rift someday and tell me how to do it! (smile)
     
  18. runran

    runran Forum Apprentice

    Regarding the sigma packages I was talking about, you can still see the benefits today if you open event tab in-game and in sigma sales you should see that there were three packages which I don't remember what each gave but if you bought them beside what's in the package you would get some benefits, that are listed there and are available there until tomorrow when birthday event is over. The benefits are that if you would bought one package you would receive +150 speed and 3% additional cannon slots, if you bought two: +100000 vodoo points and 5% cannon slots and if you bought all three: 10% reload time and 7% cannon slots. I don't know if with that % you would reach 820 cannons, but it will be higher than normal maximum slots for the event period. I'm sure also there are bot boats that do rift and mess up all the game rankings but for certain you can obtain a reasonable time for rift map(13-14) min with a good setup.
     
  19. BilderrahmenOH

    BilderrahmenOH Forum Greenhorn

    Ofcourse there are applications out there that do rift map on their own. Integrated in the most common programs aswell. But those programs cant do rift map as good as if you would do it manually. I myself could provide evidence for that but then i would get banned on the forum. But there are no programs on the market that do it "perfectly" or are finetuned just for rift map. The available once are slow in "processing" each waves npc and executing shoot commands etc. Times of 10ish minutes are possible through the sigma packages. The cannon slot buffs add up meaning youve got +15% slots instead of just 7% effectively letting you drive around with armory lamp buff 24/7. The reload reduction combined with chains give you a reload of 1,5secs which is the lowest possible reload, anything below is capped off, meaning you can use full WB or Bastions and still have 1,5 reload. The creator of the thread posted that his ship is full WB6 and Bastion5 so he shouldnt need any setup help. Even with full ribs, if hes doing times hes saying then hes either bad or lying about his cannons.
     
  20. post your time so we can see if you are speaking theoretically or from your personal experience.
     
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